Ziker
Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,
Since this is a discussion forum I'd like to start one. But before I go into details let me share some of the background so you know where I'm coming from.
Most of you here won't remember me, because back in the days I was active mainly on Polish forums (Torg.pl) and Otfans. This has been more than 10 years ago mind you!
What I have seen back then was a vibrant community full of people willing to help others, share and otherwise make improvements so that we could all enjoy OpenTibia - the thing that was meant to offer experience as close to Tibia as it could at the time.
These times seem to be gone, what I observed over the last couple of days of being here is mostly throwing blame, flame wars and complaints, a bunch of spoiled people who are upset by the state of this community. The same people who put it in this state in the first place!
Let me tell you something about open source, contribution-led projects. You actually need to contribute, give back. I suppose it's been long since most of you started, too long to remember how you got where you are now, what made it possible for you to make money from your currently shiny, flawless servers.
It's thanks to those ambitious, skilled people who started this (most of which are no longer here from what I can see) and kept on going with the support of what once was an open and eager to work towards the common goal community.
I genuinely wish I never logged back in here those couple of days ago, because what I have seen since then made me simply sad.
You all have your perspective, opinions, point of views - all of which I respect truly. I can also that if this continues, this community is doomed to fail - you won't have the foundation you benefit from now, because no one will want to contribute anymore and the maintainers of TFS, OTC and other tools will move on too. Think about how much more time, effort and money it's gonna cost you to maintain your servers and keep them up to date with Tibia's features if the community is gone. Without the community the players will be gone too. You may get away with it for now, but one day you may all regret it. It'll no longer be profitable. Tibia is growing (in resources), it's able to increase the pace at which things change. Will you be able to keep up with all the changes to ensure that your servers are still more attractive to people, only with the team you have at your disposal (because everyone else is gone)?
I'm not here to point fingers though, I'm speaking to the community as a whole. I came here a couple of days ago thinking that I benefited from this community greatly in the past and while I wasn't able to contribute as much as I'd want back then, I'm surely able to do it now - 10 years after I once left, bringing in 10 years of commercial software engineering experience. But what I've seen so far threw me off completely. I don't need to prove anything nor I need to contribute to FOSS in order to learn. It was more about the community, people, working together once again.
That being said it feels like it's not the place one would want to put their skills and knowledge to use. It's sad.
These are my few observations, you can do whatever you want with it. Ignore it, throw shit at me, whatever.
Since this is a discussion forum I'd like to start one. But before I go into details let me share some of the background so you know where I'm coming from.
Most of you here won't remember me, because back in the days I was active mainly on Polish forums (Torg.pl) and Otfans. This has been more than 10 years ago mind you!
What I have seen back then was a vibrant community full of people willing to help others, share and otherwise make improvements so that we could all enjoy OpenTibia - the thing that was meant to offer experience as close to Tibia as it could at the time.
These times seem to be gone, what I observed over the last couple of days of being here is mostly throwing blame, flame wars and complaints, a bunch of spoiled people who are upset by the state of this community. The same people who put it in this state in the first place!
Let me tell you something about open source, contribution-led projects. You actually need to contribute, give back. I suppose it's been long since most of you started, too long to remember how you got where you are now, what made it possible for you to make money from your currently shiny, flawless servers.
It's thanks to those ambitious, skilled people who started this (most of which are no longer here from what I can see) and kept on going with the support of what once was an open and eager to work towards the common goal community.
I genuinely wish I never logged back in here those couple of days ago, because what I have seen since then made me simply sad.
You all have your perspective, opinions, point of views - all of which I respect truly. I can also that if this continues, this community is doomed to fail - you won't have the foundation you benefit from now, because no one will want to contribute anymore and the maintainers of TFS, OTC and other tools will move on too. Think about how much more time, effort and money it's gonna cost you to maintain your servers and keep them up to date with Tibia's features if the community is gone. Without the community the players will be gone too. You may get away with it for now, but one day you may all regret it. It'll no longer be profitable. Tibia is growing (in resources), it's able to increase the pace at which things change. Will you be able to keep up with all the changes to ensure that your servers are still more attractive to people, only with the team you have at your disposal (because everyone else is gone)?
I'm not here to point fingers though, I'm speaking to the community as a whole. I came here a couple of days ago thinking that I benefited from this community greatly in the past and while I wasn't able to contribute as much as I'd want back then, I'm surely able to do it now - 10 years after I once left, bringing in 10 years of commercial software engineering experience. But what I've seen so far threw me off completely. I don't need to prove anything nor I need to contribute to FOSS in order to learn. It was more about the community, people, working together once again.
That being said it feels like it's not the place one would want to put their skills and knowledge to use. It's sad.
These are my few observations, you can do whatever you want with it. Ignore it, throw shit at me, whatever.